Leitfaden 6 • Rollover
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@XXChrisXX sind nicht ganz 800 dann könnte ich das so abschließen dann sind zwar nur 91 % aber damit kann ich leben
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mist mindest quote reicht ja nicht
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@XXChrisXX du kannst mehrere kleine Beträge setzen aber dann muss Du alles proportional teilen. Nach der erste Rolloverwette zB wenn Du 800 hast und der Rollover 1000 und Du eine 400 Wette machen willst musst Du bei eine Echtgeld 400 Bonus 0 Rollover 500 eingeben
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Ich hatte jetzt 200 gesetzt der Rest Rollover ist 800. Wenn ich jetzt 400 setzte warum ist der Rest dann 500 und nicht 400 ?
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@XXChrisXX du setzt die Hälfte die du dort hast, dann soll auch der Rollover das entsprechen. 500 weil es die Hälfte von 1000 ist und in Beispiel ist der Rollover 1000.
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Hi, I have a question about the rollover.
When I place the first bet I will add it to the profit tracker as it will show a profit.
However, if you are required to complete the rollover the calculator shows that you make a loss on your bets. I have already read in this thread that this is nothing to worry about as the first bet takes all future rollover bets into consideration.
My question is, should I be adding the rollover bets I make to the profit tracker?
(My apologies, I am English so if you only speak German I have provided the translation below)
Hallo, ich habe eine Frage zum Rollover.
Wenn ich die erste Wette platziere, füge ich sie dem Profit Tracker hinzu, da sie einen Gewinn anzeigt.
Wenn Sie jedoch den Rollover abschließen müssen, zeigt der Rechner an, dass Sie einen Verlust bei Ihren Wetten machen. Ich habe bereits in diesem Thread gelesen, dass dies kein Grund zur Sorge ist, da die erste Wette alle zukünftigen Rollover-Wetten berücksichtigt.
Meine Frage ist, sollte ich die Rollover-Einsätze, die ich mache, zum Profit-Tracker hinzufügen?
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if you got a rollover and the calculator shows you for example +80 EUR. It means that you will get this if the ratings ar as u choose it. When your Back Bet wins, and you close the match in the Profit Tracker and you choos that the Back Bet has wone, u will got something like + 150 EUR OR something. so its like more then the 80 EUR. The 70 EUR on Top ist for the next Bets, cause u will loose some money there. ALl together in the end u got approximatly + 80 EUR. Just check this in the profit tracker, and u will understand
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Many thanks for the very fast response. I think I understand, however, could you please just clarify with me that I do.
If I get a €150 bonus for depositing €150 and the rollover is €2100, this means that the first bet I place in the calculator will have a remaining rollover of 2100.
So say the profit for this is €100, but, the back bet wins.
My next bet in the calculator will be with zero bonus. So if I was to place a back bet of 600, would the number I input for the remaining rollover be 1500?
If this is the case the calculator will show a loss let's sat that loss is €50. So if I understand you correctly, even though this bet will show a loss on the calculator, overall with my finances there won't actually be a loss?
Thanks again for you help
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exactly.. best example. my first rollover showed me a +80 EUR. i won the Backing Bet and my profit tracker showed me a + 120 EUR as i cleared this game. I rolled the money another time and made -40 EUR with this bet so in the End i got the 80 EUR Plus from the beginning. hope u get this. the first Winning ist the minimum wining if u play the rating as u choosed (95% for example). if u playing bets lower, u will lose more money. Because of 5% Taxes im Playing allways 90% Rating:)
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Thanks Billy, yes, that makes sense now. Thanks again for your help
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Hi Billy, I hope you are well. I just wanted to clarify one last thing in regards a rollover with bet3000. I placed my bet 150 my money and 150 (95% rating) and the back bet won, resulting in a profit of 140 (it would have been 110 if the lay bet won).
It is a 900 rollover so after the initial 300 bet does this now mean the rollover for my next bet will be 600 with zero bonus and 95% rating?
I think this is correct but I just want to clarify, as the bet I would want to place now shows a loss of 67 euros (with the German tax and Orbit Exchange commission) which would mean the overall profit would only be 73.
When we last spoke you mentioned that the initial profit amount you see in the first bet is what you would make even after the rollover. But in this case the initial calculated profit was 110 and now after this rollover it would be 73. Am I going wrong somewhere or is this correct?
Thanks again Billy, I assure you this is my last question regarding this matter
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@seric1988 you are not doing anything wrong, everything is directly connected the the odds you are betting on. I think 73€ is a good profit for the offer.
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@Iliya-Moskov
IIiya, many thanks for your quick response and confirmation. I was a bit thrown off that the total profit made is lower than the initial calculation of the first bet. I guess the 5% German tax it what impacts the amount. Anyway, I definitely know what I'm doing now so won't need to bug you guys anymore. Also I completely agree €73 is great!
Have a good day and thanks again!
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@seric1988 ich with 5% taxes it’s allmonatlichem impossible to find games the fit your 95% rule . Only if the rating is > 100% you can reach the 95% level with taxes . That’s why I’m playing like 90% and im sure that I will get this amount. The amount of your first lay bet Depends on the rating you choose . Just check it next time and play with the numbers
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@BillyKobra great explanation! Thanks!
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ha ha to be honest Billy I was a bit unsure what the rating percentage was so I just stuck it at 95% as per the instructions of each offer.
This really does make so much more sense, so in theory if I am only betting in with German bookmakers that mostly charge the 5% tax I should be inputting 90% rating?
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yeah if you look at the ECHTGELD-Modus first you got allways some games with ratings 93-97%.. cause of the taxes u got only like the Rating - 5% (exc. some websites like LSBET.) First i startet with 95%, but u got to wait so freaking long till there is a Rating >100% with enough liquidity so i change to Rolloverratings inbetween 90 and 92% (So the Rating in The Oddsmatcher gotta be 95-97%). Im Playing allways high Odds (4 and Above and i prefer the draw or Over/Under Bets) in 8/10 i get the bonus with the first bet:)
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@BillyKobra Gute Taktik
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