Willkommensbonus sportwetten • Zahle 50 € ein erhalte 100 € Bonus

jack

@JonasH

Is it possible to withdraw the real money value and continue with just the bonus?

Not sure, but I wouldn't try.

If I place a bet with the real money will this count towards the rollover amount?

Yes

Do I place my next bet with just the bonus money or do I also have to continue placing bets with the real money?

Either works, you should either loose all your money, or reach the requirements.

What are the correct settings for the next bet?

You have 2 choices:

Rollover mode: 389,37/0/500
Real Money mode: any stake, just make sure the rating is above 95% (if that's what you entered at the start, otherwise your winnings decrease or potentially lead to loss)

If it is possible to divide the next rollover bet into two would the following be correct?

NinjaBet would probably agree, I do not, I think this method is flawed and can lead to potential loss.

JonasH

@jack

Hi Jack,

thank you so much for your insights. They really help someone like me understand all the mechanics.

I have been struggling to understand the ratings aspect of this all. Why was it suggested in the guide to use 95%
Is this too much?
Does this mean I will take a loss on this?

I also am unable to make one bet with the real money and bonus together on sportswetten.de so the maximum I can do in one bet is 199.43

What is your suggestion?
Rollover mode or real money mode?
It seems like I take a loss on either.

the best i get on rollover mode is -13,7
the best i get on real money mode is 89,6

I really appreciate your insights and am just trying to make sure I am not losing any money

jack

@JonasH A rating of 95% means you expect to loose 5€ per 100€ stake.
Thus for rollover offers, if the remaining rollover is 500€ after your initial bet, you are expected to loose another 25€ while finishing the rollover. But this was accounted for when placing the first bet.
(You simply won 25€ more than if the counter bet would have won)

If you however continue to place bets with lower rating, e.g. 90% you loose 10€ for every 100€ stake, thus you would loose 50€ in total, which is 25€ more than expected, and depending on your initial win, you might end up in the red.

On the contrary, if you happen to find higher ratings, like 98% you actually make more money than you initially thought.

What I typically do, is take a look at the ratings, I can achieve with the bookmaker, let's say 93% is common, I would use something like 90% just to make sure I will not have to use anything that looses me money.

I mostly finish rollover offers in the real money mode, for simplicity, but it is possible to squeeze some more money out of the offer by continuing to use the rollover mode. Just make sure that if you do so, 1. the rating in the real money mode would still be higher than your initial rating and 2. always go all-in, the rollover calculator always expects you to have no money left if the bet looses, thus completing the offer immediately.

jack

@Itsandeyy Ich kann ehrlich gesagt nicht ganz folgen, klingt aber falsch. Es ist ja einfach keine Freiwette... warum sollte man es als solche behandeln?

JonasH

@jack

Ok

If I understand it correctly I can just go into real money mode, use the full bonus of 199 euro as long as I find a rating 95% or higher?

In my initial bet the amounts were equal, no matter who won so I am not sure if that makes a difference.

jack

@JonasH Pretty sure they were not, the calculator shows them as equal, but only because it already deducts the future loss.

If you compare your balance to what the calculator told you, you would have, it should be higher.

jack

@JonasH

I can just go into real money mode, use the full bonus of 199 euro as long as I find a rating 95% or higher?

Yes, you can also just bet 100€ at a time, or 50€, doesn't matter at this point, you simply have to reach the 700€ total, or loose all you money before.

JonasH

@jack I see, yes, I understand what you mean.

So for the continuation of the rollover you suggest the following?
If I understand it correctly I can just go into real money mode, use the full bonus of 199 euros as long as I find a rating 95% or higher?

JonasH

@jack

Also is there a way to see the rating of the previous bet? I typed in 95 but I am not sure if that is what I got, I dont remember the exact percentage of the bets I previously made

jack

Do you keep track of your bets anywhere?

If so you can just recalculate them to check the ratings.

jack

I personally have records of every single bet I ever placed, every single offer I ever accepted and every transaction I made.

JonasH

@jack

Do you have a template you feel comfortable sharing? I have a record of how much I put in, how much is currently in the account and how much I took out.

I can find the data on the broker sites but am unsure how to calculate.

acht22

@Fer0984 Da Bonus und Echtgeld getrennt sind trägst du das im Rollovermodus wie folgt ein: 0 EG/100 BG /600 RO.

Das Echtgeld rollst du dann wie mans kennt am Ende in einer Echtgeldwette.

Sowohl Echt als auch Bonusgeld auf ein Spiel zu klatschen scheint mir etwas zu auffällig, gerade bei Sportwetten die nur nach Gründen suchen, dich zu limitieren.

Fer0984

@acht22 sagte in Willkommensbonus sportwetten • Zahle 50 € ein erhalte 100 € Bonus:

@Fer0984 Da Bonus und Echtgeld getrennt sind trägst du das im Rollovermodus wie folgt ein: 0 EG/100 BG /600 RO.

Das Echtgeld rollst du dann wie mans kennt am Ende in einer Echtgeldwette.

Sowohl Echt als auch Bonusgeld auf ein Spiel zu klatschen scheint mir etwas zu auffällig, gerade bei Sportwetten die nur nach Gründen suchen, dich zu limitieren.

Schließlich habe ich den Rollover-Rechner wie gewohnt verwendet, d. h. EG:100/Bonus:100/Rollover 700/90 %. Setzen Sie dann zweimal auf dasselbe Spiel, zuerst 100 mit dem Bonus und dann 100 mit EG auf dasselbe Ergebnis. Da die Wette verloren ging, gewann ich das Geld schließlich beim zweiten Buchmacher in Höhe von 38 Euro.